Random Death Metaler calls in for the first time ever. He and Chuck remember all the great and terrible death metal bands from days past.
Topics include: 999th episode, off next week, video graphics, arien having a smoke, unique photos, RV in the desert, Landers, Cooley Super Bowl issues, new rules, past podcast episodes, no justice for old Cooley, interest, Random Death Metaler call in, beer review, death metal bands, live metal shows, 90s metal scene, New Jersey, worst death metal bands, recording studios, guitar techniques, understanding the lyrics, rock n roll lifestyle
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You are listening to Uncle theBroadcast. My name’s Aaron. I’m the nephew in-law. Here with me is the star of the show, Uncle. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Three 999is the number. Man, what a number. And we’re getting there. We’re getting there inclose. We’re so close to there. But right now, we’re here. But when we’rewhen we’re there, we’ll let everybody know, right, Uncle? Right. That’s the main point. We’re live on theOchelli Radio Network tonight, as we are every Friday. Um ochelli.com.Uh, this is 11 pm. Well, it’s after that, but usually it starts at 11 pmEastern. It’s 8:00 PM on Pacific time. What’s up, Chuck?Right. Really, really quickly, here’s what I’m going to do for you just real fast. Uh, apologize to the listeners tothe age of transitions and also apologies to regular listeners of Uncle the podcast live cuz we started latetonight and uh we’re going to we’re going to carry it a little bit over the hour but normally we begin around 11:00p.m. Eastern which is uh just about what 8:00 p.m. Pacific, right? Um and that’swhat we do. 319-527-5016 is the number to call and we may limitthe time for callers tonight depending on what happens. So get in quick if you can. 319-5275016and uh make it interesting because Uncle’s got a lot to say and I got a few things to do. So I’m going to bow outand actually not talk during this hour again. Back to Aaron and uncle.Hello. Uh thank you Sean. Thank you. Uh, now we’ve got we’ve gothere I’m going to have well got to saytonight for next week I’ll beaway for one week but I’ll be back and I’ll have something to talk about thefollowing week. You’re going to be away next week, right, Uncle? Right. Right. That’s what I’m just telling to tell these people. Yeah. No uncle show next week. So,so it’s all up to your show. You can edit it or you don’t have to have to doit. It depends what you want to do. I don’t know. We’ll see. We’ll see. Yeah. I actually I haven’t even thought of that. Maybe.I have. I have. Well, okay. It’s getting close to going. What do you think I should do, Uncle?Should I do a show or no? Maybe no. I might take a week off. You’re You’re really tempting me here. I I might notbe here next week. Well, you gonna be You got to work, though.I ain’t going on. Hopefully not Friday night. I If I do, then I’m really in trouble more so than even usual. Butyeah, uh as Chuck was saying, we we are taking calls. So call number 319-527-5016.You better have a hustle and you better get in call in here. It’s going to be eliminated.It’s going to be eliminated. Limited. Limited. Limited for tonight. It’s a limited engagement.So you better get hustling if you want to talk to me. Yeah, we’re live on Ochelli. We alsolive streamed the video. I’m looking at the different um platforms. Uh look at this guy with thelooks like. Yeah, I’m now I’m just playing around with graphics because why not? Let’s just play with graphics and give people an exciting visualpresentation for Here’s the laded thing. The laded thingand smoke. What is Oh, the We got back down here with the with the alien. You You want You want I like that alien being have a smoke.Let me see. I’ve I saw that guy with the smoke and he’s doing Oh, there there’s Poncho.We got that. We’ve got the macho man. Macho Man really sharing here. This is what you’re talking about.Yeah, that’s good. There we go. Okay. So, yeah, I’ve got a lot of graphics and I do I have to say,Uncle, I have fun with the graphics that we use for the live stream. I really enjoy playing I know you’re playing away with it alot. I’ve I’ve noticed here. I mean, why not? It’s make the show interesting, something different,you know? We we need to give people something other than what they see elsewhere. Andthese graphics are a way to do that. Look, here’s a this was a photo I took and I turned it into this. Look at howcolorful that is. Isn’t that great? What is it? I bet it looks like a traina a a um a changingum a table. A uh looks like somethinga I can’t think right now. You want to know what it is? It’s part of a train.It’s part of a train. It’s the side door opening. You are very You Yeah, that’s It lookslike that’s what it is. A side door opening. Well, you’re close. This is actually what this is. It It’s similar to that.This is taken from the inside of an RV that was out in Landers, abandoned on adesert road. You took that out of there and you Howdid you get that in there? Well, it’s interesting. The RV, you’re not see you’re only seeing a view frominside the RV looking out the windows at the desert landscape. But if you could see behind what’s in this photo, youwould notice that about half of the RV is actually missing and it’s open to theopen air cuz somebody like ripped the side off of it. And this is a large class A size RV we’re talking about.Somebody just uh you know wrecked it or left it out on this desert road. Theyripped it open. So you got to tell me you were out there, took the picture.Mhm. Came back and made this. I came back and made that. Yeah. Now I I I made these crazy colors because Ithink they look cool. You can do that kind of magic with the Adobe Creative Suite. I think I did this one inIllustrator, but I’ve got a bunch of these different landscape photos I’ve taken. This is another one from Landers.This is just the hike up Goat Mountain. That’s the side of Goat Mountain right there. And the view of Landers below.And beautiful wackadoodle looking colors. This is Death Valley. This is Bryce Canyon.I told you you’re making money out that house. What? Keep looking. The Landers house.Mhm. Yeah. Well, yeah, that’s the idea, right? People are renting it out now. I’m sureyou probably got some people out. Yeah. Yeah. It’s actually that I mean now that you mentioned it that actuallyis going well. That is something that’s it’s been a success. It’s not the world’s largest business,but it’s a success nonetheless. So, it’s something I am proud of. And so, you know, while while I’m out there doinguseful things like making money, I’m also doing completely useless things like taking photos of giant rock andlater making giant rock purple with green clouds behind it. There’s no purpose in doing that, uncle. Zero. ThatI didn’t make any money doing this. Oh, well no to making money. Speaking pointlessspeaking on behalf of a uh private message from a listener. Uh they want to know because it was brought up on myshow. Um and I think this person is from Germany. I’d really love it if you wouldcall in. I I have sent them the international German number. Oh yeah. Yeah. So call in. I’d like to hear from you.I’d like to hear from you. Right. But I don’t want to confuse anybody who’s generally listeningbecause we we got the one listener from Germany. So I just got a message from somebody in Germany and I’m thinking they’relistening because they’ve been listening and their question is this because we’re entering football playoffs here.Oh. Uh they want to know about the dollar bet becauseOh, here we go with that. that Culie never paid. I agree with that. Yes. Talk to thatman. He’s supposed to pay. Well, we’re going to have I’m going to have a subject with thatmain subject. Uh [Â __Â ] Everybody paid. He been asking and we’vebeen telling you, hurry up. Bring it here. Bring it here. He’s even got it postcard a uh what you call it on the onthe on the um dollar was supposed to be a his team on the dollar.And you gave a good point there, Chuck. Now there’s something I’m talking about. Sothat’s our German listener. That’s our German listener who calls himself ready for this Klouse the fish.Uh, who is messaging me privately on Chatango? Class, huh? Interesting.It’s a reference to American Dad. You know, the fish, the talking fish. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.He’s supposed to be German, you know, that’s the bit. Anyway, Klaus the fish in Germany uhsaid that and also wants to know if we are going to do another Super Bowl betor if we’re going to bet on the playoffs. So that’s what they want to know.Scare shoot out for the Let’s just shoot out for the playoffs because that seemed easier.Yeah. So the playoffs are easy. No, we didn’t do the playoffs last year, but the Super Bowl do the same thing,but participate till he pays. It’s that simple. But the point is, I want to make sureI’m not saying that other people did. They did. But I’m talking about if Kuliewants to get in to this, that would mean $2 off for him.If he going to if he’s getting into this because he didn’t pay up on the firstbuy because I was angry on my show and I came up with a rule and I decided to call it the [Â __Â ] rule.Okay. [Â __Â ] rule. And I said, and this is why this guy’s asking you the question and I think he’sgonna he might have just sent me another message. I’ll get to it in a second. But the thing is um the [Â __Â ] rule is this.If you don’t pay it off in 30 days, you now owe triple.That’s what I said. Well, that’s what I would say.You like a [Â __Â ] rule, uncle? You like that? Sounds interesting. Do it to [Â __Â ]We can’t do it to [Â __Â ] because that wasn’t part of the agreement to begin with. But he needs to pay up. Well, he does need to pay up.You got all these other guys and you know what’s his name still? Yes. Who’stalking? We still have what’s what’s his name is still on the lamb on the looseon the loose. And he’s still he still has Well, he’s been having a he has illproblems, but he hasn’t been talking and he’s still waiting on his money.Still on [Â __Â ] I mean, you’re talking about Robin. Robin. Robin. Robin’s still waiting.I think so. But the point from the guy in Germany is, and this is what he followed up with. It has been more than a year. Allcapital letters. Thatthere you go. Okay. Thank you, Claus. Yeah. The the Eagles won as we remember.It was not That was the Eagles versus Kansas City, and the Eagles ended up coming up on top. So, yeah. And now we won that bet becausehis team that he picked lost and it didn’t supposed to pay up.I thought it was supposed to pay up in Well, that’s what we’re getting at here. I mean, um, the [Â __Â ] rule was notinstituted at that point. I guess maybe it should have been, but it wasn’t. Um, we’ll we’ll have to see. Um, it could bedangerous coming up with these uh doing these wagers on the show. Clearly, we’vehad problems in the past. Maybe we can pull it off. Well, you don’t you’re not in them. I’m I was one in them. You You didn’t put noI was not in it. No, you you didn’t put no dollar in. I was just I’m just an observer. Yeah, I know. Observer trying toinvestigate as an observer. I was trying to figure out what the uh bookies are saying over here.Yeah, it’s true. What you’re saying is all true. All these things did happen. As the observer, I will say that.So, it’s true what everybody’s saying. Um what we do about it, I don’t know. We’ll see.But uh we’re making a show here. We’re having fun on Friday. Um Uncle thepodcast, the Ochelli Radio Network. People can call in if they want. 319-5275.I have but one call last week and it was I know who it was. Still,you do remember who the last caller was? Jimmy. Oh, okay. Yeah, he called last week. That sounds right. Well, the week beforelast week. We weren’t here last week. No, was the week before. No, no before that. It’s hard to keeptrack. Yeah. Yeah, I know that much. Yeah. So, we’re trying to keep track. We’re doing okay.But I would like to say though, if people do want to listen to me, we hadasked discussion before. Sorry. Yeah. What’s that? About putting it on for the people tolisten even though I’m not here. Oh, yes. I know what you’re talking. Well, we have to uh let’s think aboutthis because Hey, you do it one time. Do thatone time. Just one time and you’ll probably see hear it coming out better.I have a retort to this. I’m not sure if you’re going to like this. My qu it’s a question actually. Myquestion to you is what episode number are we on tonight? 99.99.Okay. So that means how many episodes do we have in our podcast uh queue? Ifpeople go and listen to the podcast on podcast app, this would be the 199. This would bethis one. But when it’s done Mhm. but when this this one is done be thatnumber. So there’s roughly and this is a rough 198. Yeah. Roughly 198 episodesepisodes in the podcast list if you go listen to it on Apple podcast or whatever.But they’re there. They’re there every hour of every day, every minute. You just have to turn on and listen. Soyou from the beginning, if you haven’t heard me, from the beginning to now,you you following what my point is here, uncle? Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know exactly what it is. I’m I’m I’m I’m expressing the futilityof entering a quote unquote new episode to the live show when there’s justconstant content all the time. Oh, there’s three stooges for all of eternity in theory, whichwon’t be at all, but you know, theoretically, all they have to do is just go to the podcast thing and listen to him. Hell, somebody who’s new to theshow could go back and listen to episode one and, you know, binge listen all the way up to it. They’ll find outhow funny I am. I mean, from that from that standpoint, maybe they should do that.Yeah. If people want to try to find him, try that out, everybody. Yeah, we’ve got creative accents in the chat.What’s up, creative accents? Crazy accent. He’s He’s suggesting a new hashtag weneed to start using. Hashtag justice forcoolie. New hashtag.I guess he just created that one. Wait a minute. Justice for [Â __Â ]Justice for why not? According to creative accents, crazy accidents talking this thing.No, you know what? I go with almost every idea creative accidents has. Thisis bad. He’s wasted a year not to send a dollar. Oh yeah. I know that.That too. So he doesn’t deserve justice. Justice.Oh. Oh dang. That’s that’s intense. This should be lean on [Â __Â ]Or how about he pays a vig. He’s got to pay interest. Now this is a year almost.Yeah. Interest. A dollar. A dollar two interest. How’s that sound? A dollar or two in interest. Yep. Yep.That sounds fair. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? It sounds about right. I like the sound of that.Just Okay. But how often do we apply interest? What? A dollar a year. So, you know, you wait five years.Well, it will be five years by the time we get it. If you think if you if you think of that one,I’m thinking we’re going to be waiting a while on this. I mean, yeah. When that would fit.Put the description. [Â __Â ] We need a call from you. Comeon, we need a call. It’s been a minute. It was like we’re not going to necessarily a phone call.Oh, on air. Wait a minute. Who’s on? Let’s go ahead and talk.The button’s sticky. There we go. Long time. First time. Random death meddler here.Whoa. Death. Oh my gosh. Random death medddler. What’s up, man?What you been up to? Oh man, this is exciting. Hello. Hello. Oh, you know. Yeah.Sorry. What was that? It’s breaking up a bit. Oh, we’re we’re just celebrating thefact that you’re calling, man. This This is a celebration. Truly awesome. First caller. Boom.Yeah. You know what? I threw it I threw it in the chat room. I saw random Death Mddler in the chat room andI said, you know, because he’s he pops in and out, you know, sometimes we don’t see him for months and he pops back in.Yeah. You know, I am I I I thank you for many things, Random Death Metler. you areawesome, dude. Uh, I love you. I just want you to know that from the producer. But I said tohim just in the chat room. I said, “Why don’t you call in?” Because I do that to people in the chat, you know, if I seelike one, two guys in there, I’m like, “Hey, somebody call in. You call in.” And I just threw it at him. And heactually did it. So, welcome, man. Yeah. He’s a long time. First time caller. Exactly. Absolutely.I’m not sure I have much to add to this conversation, but I love the show. Been listening for along time. Let’s be I’m going to say what I think we all want to say is Coolie’s lucky hehas kneecap still. Come on now. Hey, now there’s one. You like that, Uncle?Oh, is he getting mad? Oh, boy. I said cool. The people pissing offhere. You better get moving. Send it out. Send them out. I might have to getKool-Aid to call back in because it’s been a minute. We need to resolve this. Absolutely. Well, you got to be your That’s yourbuddy in Ohio. You better start talking to him. Yeah, it’s an Ohio problem, that’s for sure.Yeah. Oh, man. Random Death Mddler, thank you so much for all the You’ve sent me a lotof really cool stuff over the years, man. Thank you so much for all that stuff. Yeah. So yeah.Oh say thank you for that shot glass and I got some I will mail you off the air orwhatever and get your address because I got some stuff to send to you when Yeah. Yeah. You you sent mewith the should help with the the whatever content you’ve been watching with the old conspiracy DVDs and showsand stuff. I got a ton of that stuff from back in the day. Nice. Oh, cool. Awesome, man. Yeah, that wouldthat would definitely be great. Yeah, I’ve I’ve got quite the collection as well. But yeah, anything you got couldbe helpful. That’s for sure. I mean, that’s cool. When I get back. No doubt.Well, when we get back, I’m going to We’re going to do the What do you guys What’s What’s everybody drinking tonight?Uh what do you got, Uncle? You have anything? I was going to bring up a cup of a beeror two, but I mean on the way up, but uh you have a You can’tWell, yeah. I I’m I’m not able to drink for a while. Maybe later, but I’ll I’ll be back, butI’m temporary hiatus. Do you have anything interesting, Random Death Miller? I was going to ask you up.Yeah, I I just drank a Sierra Nevada pale ale.Do you have a Do you have a rating um from 1 to 10 on that one? Yeah. What’s your rating? I just heardthat Sierra Nevada Pale and Heinen supposedly have never had they have nofluoride in the water. Oh, okay. Whoa, that’s a plus. They’ve never had it. That’sYeah, for whatever it’s worth. I could be wrong, but you know, I’ve heard that Heineken and Sierra NevadaPale do not have fluoride in their beer. Cool. Dang. Well, that’sI I feel I feel sad. I mean I mean if I was drinking one and you don’t have adrink I don’t like to do that but I know that you don’t you can Yeah, Uncle don’t let me uh spoilthe mood. You can always still uh review something. If you come across something that looks good to you, you can get itand then bring it to Friday night and you can do a review of it. That’s good. We can do that. I might even do a shotglass worth of it, but keep it at that just as a true tasting. See, I’m a true connoisseur. I don’t drink to justbecome wasted and black out like everybody else out there drinking. I drink it because I enjoy the flavor andI love the review process here at Uncle the Broadcast. So, I may actually do that. How about that?You know, you know where it’s at. How’s that for sophistication, right?But I was going to bring one up. Yeah. Well, but I mean, I was going to, but as I wasin the in the kitchen going back and forth, which could I bring? and astronomy. Damn,it slipped my mind. Slipped my mind. I come up here. I come up here. It was a beer. Yeah. Yeah. But back to you, uh, Random,do do you have a scale of 1 to 10 rating for your Sierra Nevada that you had?Where would you uh rate your drink you had? Uh,I give that maybe a seven or an eight. I prefer hard liquor myself, but you meanseven or eight for the beer. Yeah. Okay, that’s pretty good. And since you’re on here, I I want to ask you acouple questions. Like uh first of all, I know you got the name random death meddler because you truly are a fan ofdeath metal. Um what uh for sure. Yeah.Yeah. Yeah. Do do you want to talk just about like maybe your uh interest in death metal generallysince you’re here? I’d like to hear about it and from your from uh how you describe it. I’d like to just hear yourstory. I don’t know, man. I just been listening to it forever since I was I was a latch key kid off in San Franciscoat like 11 12 years old going to these concerts and stuff. So,wow. You’re going that that young? I mean, you’re going that young girl.Oh, you had to go with someone though. I need this girlfriend. She always called me random thought man.Oh. And then it just came at the time when that came up and then it just got put together. Wow. What’s what’s the origin of that?San Francisco is a great area for certain legendaryuh you know death metal bands when they were coming up depending on what era he was listening.So Oh, absolutely. Crash death. Yeah. Yeah. There’s a lot of I mean, you know, you’re talking I know autopsy,right? I was just going to bring them up. Yeah. There we go. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, but even uhSlayer, Exodus. Yeah, sure. Yep. Exodus. Yeah.You know, Violence, Testament, Forbidden, all those bands. Yep. I open for Testament. Oh, there wego. Whoa. Nice. Dude, I love that Stitch work though, Chuck. Props to you on that one.That’s a good one. That demo. The only death metal surviving stuff that I have in digital form. Yeah. I I’mI I was really happy. That’s 1994, believe it or not. What was that guy sitting in the chair?Yeah. That’s a good era. Yeah. Well, it was wild because that’s when Eric Retan came out of Ripping Corpseand went to uh Morbid Angel, right? Yep. And he actually didn’t he didn’t playthe track on God of Emptiness, but he ended up in the video. That’s exactly the time period. Remember God ofEmptiness? That weird video? Bow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I remember that too.Whatever in it. Yeah. Bow to me faithfully. That was that was featured in Beas andButt had that video. I do. It was. Yeah. Yeah. It was. You got to understand all around thecountry when we saw that. I like Aaron, I know you’re an eclectic music guy, but if you were a death metal musician atthe time, you were like, “Yes.” Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was great. We were losingit. We were like, “Yeah.” What would be What’s the first deathmetal band you remember seeing? Uh, random. Yeah.The actual death metal. Oh, man. I don’t know. Probably had to be like maybe Obituary.Okay. Or Autopsy Incantation. One of these bands, man. Nice. Nice.But I see thrash pedal bands before that, you know. Yeah. My older brother and whatnot,right? That’s cool. That’s awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Early 90s. I actually I saw MorbidAngel at the Stone San Francisco. Yeah. Morbid Angel,Creator, Paradise Lost, I think it was the Stone. Yeah. You know what’s You know what’sinteresting at random? I and tell me if you’ve noticed this, but kids, I’mtalking like kids who are like teenager, maybe young 20s are super into metalnow. And when I go out, like I went out wearing a uh blood incantation longsleeve t-shirt to the mall. I was like buying Christmas presents. And when I was checking out at this like justlittle like cutesy shop where you buy stuff for your kids, the the like 20-year-old cashier was like, “Oh,that’s bloody incantation, right?” I’m like, “Yes.” I’m like, “Do you listen to them?” Like, “Yeah, I just started listening to him.” And kids like reallylove all this death metal now. Were you aware of this?Sort of, but I mean, it seems like it’s all tinged with like that little modern emo. I don’t know what it is. It’s notquite the same as it was like a long in the past. They’re all like, you know, I don’t know. Tight. It’s liketight pants metal, you know, tight skinny. Yeah. It’s weird. Metal. It’s weird now because look, hehe came up in an era where you got a fanzene and you thought a name was coolin like a one paragraph review of a death metal demo and then you literallywould order it from the band for like five bucks. I mean the this is the reality of wheredeath metal was in the 90s, right? Yeah. No internet, nothing. Yep. Um andI remember we used to Yeah. Me and my friends, we’d go to the store, the record shop, and like we’d each go,”Okay, you’re going to buy this and I’ll buy this,” you know, and then we just trade, you know, solely based on the cover and what they look like on theback and song titles, you know. Oh, yeah. And everybody, some of them were just like pop them inso instantaneously. You’re like in the garbage. I’m never listening to this again, you know? 20 bucks down.Whatever survived, right? whatever survived. Then you everybody you’d sit there making copies, you’d listen to itagain because it’s like you’d play it in real time and make a double double tape a deck copy of itbecause it was like, “Oh, I want my copy.” Absolutely. See, I Okay, I’m going to give you a couple of deepcuts from the Jersey metal scene because here’s a weird thing, too. We were We would go after stuff from likeCalifornia and Florida in Jersey cuz we had access to New York. We had access to Boston.So, I’ll tell you a band I managed. I don’t know if you ever heard of them. You ever hear of Cryptic Realm?No. I want to say Torture Crypt. I’ve heard of them. They’re from out there, aren’t they? Those guys were my roommates at the HotDog House, dude. We There you go. Yeah, they that that one they have a demo or two. I remember thatwas pretty badass. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Um what was it? Uh my myfavorite song from them was Disassembly. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. There’s a goose. Theywere good. Yeah. Brutal. No, I played all Jersey bands are there. Ripping Corpse.Yeah. What else is from Jersey? Ripping Corpse. Um there. Let me think about this here.Inebriation. The band Inebriation. Okay. Out ofthere. Uh a band called Gaft, which was uh previously called Ritual. I’ve heard of them.Ritual Torment was uh th those guys went to high school with me. Um,they’re pretty brutal, too. They were kind of Yeah, Gaff wasn’t bad.Definitely. They They were I feel like we’re taking over the Uncle Show with this death metal stuff. I um I I’m thinking about this a moment.I was thinking of something. What’s happening, Uncle? Since we’re in the bent med,um, let’s figure out, let’s go on out and which are your bestones of best metalist. Oh, are we doing like a top 10 list? Top 10 listingsof of death metal. Of death metal. Oh, there. Now, go ahead and hit them and let’s see which onesyou guys come up with. And this is direct from random death meddler death met. Yeah. So, this isgoing to be uh this is gonna be official. Yeah. Tell you what, I want to add somethingto it. I want the best and worst that he ever heard because I got an easyI I got a hard time picking the best, but I got an easy time picking the worst. Oh.Um and Random Death Mddler knows what I’m talking about. Okay.Oh, well then. Yeah, because some of these guys think of the worst. Yeah. He’s thinking about it now.You know who was the worst one from Jersey I ever heard? Deteriorat.You remember that? Oh yes. Yes, I do. Not to be confused with Deteriorate. No.From uh Chicago or something like thatalbum. Was it Rotting in Hell or something like that? I thought they were from I thought they were from Ohio actually. Weren’t theyfrom Ohio? Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah. Midwest somewhere, I believe. Yeah. I mean, it could be. Yeah. No doubt. Butthat one album with this stupid skull drawing on the cover. I mean, that thing that one was badass.Oh my god. But that Deterior Rock, Here’s the Deterior Rock was awful. Oh my god. The funniest The funniestthing is, look, if you ever looked at the information, because they had a full-blown, they put a lot of money into their album cover, and it was like Ilooked at this thing and I was like, this is like incomprehensible. You know, that was back in the days oflike your death metal logo. You couldn’t read it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.I want to say their claim to fame was wasn’t somebody that like was in Incantation a part of that deal orsomething? Yeah. Somehow, right? Somehow them and a band that I I was supposed to front, butthen they picked a different guy uh called um Killed by Inches was umOkay. was uh which by the way I almost got myself into the murder junkies at one point because remember I was a I wasa crossover guy. Uh no seriously right after GG died they were looking for me.Um anyway that’s a wacky story but no Dior was was the worst death metal bandI ever saw. Um, and it was funny because we were like competing north like NorthJersey versus like the Jersey Shore death metal bandslike Oh, but no, Deterior was the worst. ButDeterior went into Big Blue Meanie Studio in Hackinack, New Jersey, and they happened to book a bunch. Theyspent thousands of dollars for that vomit that they put on vinyl. And I was like, “Dude, this is the worst soundingthing.” And I’m looking at it and the guy who owns the studio says to me, “You know, I asked them not to put mystudio’s name on that record.”Oh man. He said, “At least you what you guys are doingmakes sense.” Like, oh boy.For sure. Because I if you listen to what I recorded there, I doubled my own, you know, like I I actually had lyrics,okay? And I doubled what I was doing. Like if I wanted to I didn’t use any effects. It was just, okay, I want myvoice to be thicker. Let me do it again. And I figured out a way to come up. Yeah, that’s thethe right way. That was the way back then, right? That’s funny. Yeah. Yeah. But but I thinkfive grand on that in like 93 when when we went into the studio rightafter them and they spent like five grand in that. That’s a lot of money in 93 for a demo.Oh yeah. Or an EP. Yeah. And then they actually printed it on vinyl and cassettes. Like they had, youknow, it looked professionally printed because there was some what was it? Century Media or something was part ofthat deal or something like that, right? Random. Yeah, I think so. They got they startedgetting more of those like black death metal bands like later on, you know, like the Blackens death metal orwhatever you want to call it. Oh, yeah. But then it’s like it was, you know,that the deterior weren’t like brutal death. I remember them being kind ofjust like they didn’t their vocals were terrible like if I recall.Yeah. No, it was like it was like they went to um what do you call it? Like they looked at Napom Death and said,”No, we can make that way worse.” Nice. So it was like the grind corething kind of genre sort of, but bad grind. It was like the what we used to call thePA beat, you know, the whole like, you know, the blast beat deal.Sure. We used to call that the PA beat because that’s really what it was. Sped up. Sure.You know, but really quick. So these guys literally every song wasand this guy would get on and it literally sounded like this.Couldn’t understand the words there. Now there’s one thing I cannot stand.You don’t like that uncle? That was a full album. I mean, you can’t you can’t understand the music.Really? Not not what he just did. I think what Chuck just did. I just heard You didn’t understand whatChuck just said. Oh, that means like a thing to Mortal Decay,Chuck. That’s another one. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.You know them? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, those Mortal Decay. They Yeah, they have a couple good albums, I wouldsay. You know, good one. Definitely. Uh, did you ever hear ademony? I’ve heard these. One more time. Demonosy?No, I have not. All right. Well, they were big in Jersey for a bit and they they did the whole two bass players deal for a bit there.Um, I’ll give you one last obscure name though because they were extremely talented and it kind of pissed me offwas uh Latch Shaw. What’ they do to piss him off?Oh man, I’ll see I’ll look into it. You got to look into them, especially their first demo.Um, okay. It’s amazing. Uh, it’s it’s really good. They were mad at the mix of that thingand I was like, I wish I could do that. And they were rooming with Ripping Corpse in the same See, there was arehearsal studio in Asbury Park. And at one point there was like a bunch of these like Bonjobi like, you know, glammetal guys that were using it as a practice space. Okay. No, seriously. Like this place had beenaround since the in there. Well, yeah. But this place had been around since the 70s. So, you know,Bruce Springsteen’s metal band in air quotes steel mill practiced in there, right?Yeah. And uh like across across the street there was a place called the music booth where Sebastian Bach and andthose guys from you know Skidro which is more respectable than you know John Bon Homo.But anyway um where he come from point is I hate that guy.Yeah. No. Oh I’ll tell you second album to the grindor whatever. Yes. That one is a I think that’s what it’s called. That’s his underrated album. You’re right. You’re exactly right. Andeven though Sebastian Bach is a jerk and deserved every time he got punched out in a in a club in Jersey, um I wouldtell you that he had more talent than any of those guys. Yeah. Well, that early that early De Leopard album with the truck on it,that’s actually kind of good, too. And then we know what happened to them afterwards. So that that’s kindrock and roll album. Yeah. Yeah. Didn’t that guy lose his arm? I mean, think that’s what happened.Py Romania after their big like right as their big success was hitting then he got his arm cut off in that caraccident. But um anyway, yeah, the last one I wanted to mention to you though, I’m I’m sitting heretrying to think of uh Human Remains. That was the name of the band. Oh, you ever heard?I I’ve heard them. Yeah, they were they were weird. They were kind of ahead of their time, I think. Yeah. Dave Dave Whitty and those guysthose weird guitar moves that later on uh people got to hear in Rage Against the Machine which is really weirdbecause those guys never met. You know what I’m saying? Tom Mel never met Dave Witty but somehow that wholethat stuff that they were doing with death metal it ends up in the Rage Against the Like Think about that. Youknow those weird little Yeah. I don’t even know what to call it. Pomearella ripped it off of you.Well, it almost seems that way, doesn’t it? Because that’s stuff they were doing 87 like when I got out of jail.Is that Is that a technique you do with a pick like dragging across the strings? Is that what that is? Uh, Chuck, whathow do you No, it’s sort of like Okay, look at it this way. It’s This is not a great description, but it’ll give you an idea.You know, like the Eddie Van Halen kind of hammer on stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like you’re talking about like the taps, right?Yeah. Okay. So imagine the taps, okay, and like harmonics and false harmonics,okay? But here’s the thing. You’re also using like say the switch or the knobto make it so that you only hear part of it. Ah, yeah. And it’s donewhere it sounds like it’s not anywhere near random. It’sYou know what I mean? Like was was he was he using a kill switch? Because he used a kill switch a lot, right?Yeah. Well, Tom, he’s got a mute mute switch on his guitar. Yeah. Tapping that probably right by hispalm or something like that. Well, here’s the weird thing is that he could do it with a kill switch or with aknob. Oh, interesting. And he would get the same result. Okay. Because he practiced on it. It was weirdbecause other guitarists used to gather around and just like block him. Yeah. From being seen on stage to try andwatch what he was doing because it was so weird. Oh, interesting. Not kidding. It’s like it’s like less Clayool when when he was like, you know,innovating the bass. Yeah. This guy was doing weird stuff with a guitar. Yeah.Um and Yeah. What does uncle have to say about all this here? I don’t know. Uncle, what do you think? Is this interesting music conversation?I’m block. I was thinking of um a couple othersafter we had this conversation talking about this stuff. Yeah. I had thinking about Red Zeppelin.Yeah. Um, you like this? Red Zeppelin. How do you like them?I am not. I love them. Yeah, they’re great. I’m not a fan. I I I listen to that now. I listen tothat kind of song. I love him. Love him, too. He’s good. No, because because the way they singthat song if you think a minute. The one the one it it’s like stepping up to a ladder ifyou really think about it and listening to that. I believe the the title’s ladder to heaven. Yeah. There. Yeah.Yeah. It’s that’s the name of it. I know. And and and and the the words say whatit is. Heaven. Well, at least at least it’s a it’s it’s a song that you canunderstand. I know. For once. For one. About time. That’s one that you can understand itthough. Exactly. I mean, half the songs you can’t understand half of them.What’s up? I have a great podcast here for you. Play Stairway to Heaven for Uncle forlike, you know, couple couple uh clips, right? Oh, yeah. We like to do that. I do that pentagram that they ripped off forStairway to Heaven, please. Yes, we’ll do that. You like that? I like that idea. I would love for Uncle to sit and listento here’s the original band and here’s what the people that stole it and cuz Led Zeppelin stole almost everything.They did somebody else. They did? Yes. Oh, I didn’t know that. Yes, they did. Oh, well, okay. We’ll do I’ll do that.There we go. We get I would love for you to hear it. Oh, so that you go, “Wait a minute. Which one’s better? the original or what they didwith it. Mhm. Oh, can you play that? Yeah. Yeah. And not not all the originals.You you can I play what? What are they talking about here? I want to hear that.Wait on some testament or something like that. Yeah. Testament. Yeah. Yeah. I I could play some uh death metal and see whatuncle thinks of it. Yeah. Yeah. You can play uncle reacts to death metal. Yeah, I should listen to that. Yeah,you can get down to cuz what I look forthe singer that sings the song for Pete’s sakes cuz half these singershammer smashed face. They don’t sing the proper song and you can’t understand it.I know. When you hear this is what I’m talking about. Uncle wants to hear the lyrics of grotesque impalement. He wants to Hewants to hear clearly what’s going on. Yeah. Yeah, that’s my point. That’s my thought on this stuffthat what everybody is doing talking about right now tonight. Not too much asked for. This is what I’m asking.Yeah, I think that’s it. We’ll we’ll simple. We’ll make the right calls and we’ll make sure that that happens. I think wecould do that. Okay. I will mention that uh Creative Accents and Count Puper have been in the chat.Sorry we haven’t been responding too much. They’re there. Let’s see what they have to say. Um yeah. Yeah. Well, I I know that CountPuffer was saying earlier that he was in a glam metal band at one point and that perhaps we would beat him up for it andhe was he feels a little ashamed about, but he was just putting that out there that at one point he was in one of them.That’s kind of interesting. So, we didn’t know that. Well, dude, my uh my friend’s uh a goodfriend of mine, his cousin is the basis for Warren. I mean, he’s telling me these guys, they all dress likeliterally women. They dress like women, but they were getting more chicks than you could ever imagine, bro. It’s wild,you know? Like literally looks like a woman. Goesout and he’s the hottest chicks you could ever imagine.Go figure. Hey, you never know. Ramirez literally was walking around ina dress and I mean, I knew three of his regular girls in Jersey. I mean, you know, what are you gonna do? Why? Holy[Â __Â ] Yeah. Wow. It’s rock and roll. Yeah. I don’t know. Never did neverrock and roll. Never wrapped my head around that one. No, I would never touch those women. I’ll tell you that. But uhdon’t don’t think too much. Oh man. Yeah. Well, this has been agreat episode, man. This is so exciting. Yeah. Uh, Random, I want to thank you again for not just calling in, but forall the awesome. You’ve sent me death metal stuff, like stickers in the mail. You’ve sent me shirts in the mail. Yousent me like so much cool stuff over the years. So, I am going to legitimately take this opportunity to say thank you.Thanks, man. That’s it’s it’s really cool. Appreciate that. Oh, dude. Yeah, man. Thank you for theshot glass. I That was great. I saw that. It totally caught me by surprise. I was like, what is this?I was shocked just opening up the package. I mean, I was shocked talking aboutshock and drop class. Right now, here’s where we’re going to close out the show, but in honor of the fact that random death meddler calledin, uh, I’m going to add at right after the uncle outro, uh, we’re going to playa randomly selected, uh, metal track from my personal library. Nice. Awesome, Chuck. I like that.Sounds interesting and we can hear it and what it’s going to sound like.Yeah. Very exciting. We’re the witness of a good one or not a sad one.Oh yeah. We have to listen. Oh well, we’ll on the next show. We’ll have to come back, Uncle Chuck’s songfrom 1 to 10. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We’ll do that when that’ll be on the next show. The next show when I get back. But fornow, we better get to shout outs since we do have I guess uh we want to do shout outs now, Uncle before we wrapthis thing up. You know who is gets first. I know. He’s on it. He was the first one calling. He gets to call. He gets theshout out first. All right. Random. Random. You up. Who you got for shout outs?I didn’t know who’s that time. What time is it? My shout outs. Yeah.To who? To whoever you want. To any if since S since you’re I’m not sure. Iyou you’re not okay. Okay. All right. You don’t want to say to the everybody in the world. Don’t letwhat don’t let the bastards grind you down. Whatever. You know, one day at a time.All right. I like it. I like it. Shout out I’ve heard. That’s the best shout out you’ve heard. From a guy that talksuh hot metal. Hot metal. Yeah. I mean, he is one that Hot metal.Straight from the metal. Straight from the foundry. Foundry. Yeah. the first one I ever hithim. I like it. All right. Well, Random, thank you so much, man. Feel free to call in anytime.It was Yeah, it’s it was genuinely exciting to talk to you, man. Take it easy. Calling good way down to it.Yeah, if I can think of something interesting to add to the conversation, I will.All right. Please do, man. Anytime. You know the number. So, thank you so much. Um, Uncle, do you want to give a shoutout? Oh, you got one, man. Shout out to my regular people andthe out oftowners and I’m appreciate you listeningabout shout out I mean that that cola tonight. Yeah, that was that Chuck said. Shout out tohim. Yeah, I guess I’ll do a quick shout out to all the kids that are actually listening to death metal now. I knowthat they’re going back and listening to old stuff and it’s crazy that uh shout out and I have seen videos of dyingfetus playing uh shows I think at like festivals and stuff and the size of thecrowd blows my mind now. So it’s it’s amazing what’s happening these days inthat scene. It’s almost unbelievable. One other question is in the carnivalsthat we go to the carnivals. Okay. we get these bands,at least we can understand them. I mean, the last one we went toat the South Florida Fair, it was this one band and I could understand them.Well, yeah. Shout out to them to shout out to the bands we understand. Yeah. Yeah, that’s him. Um, Chuck, did you want to do a shoutout real quick? You want to do a shout out? No, I’m I’m I’m good. But uh I just appreciate the fact that random deathmemedler called in and I appreciate everybody. Thank you so much. Very cool. Yeah, fun show. Very fun showthis. Okay, so we I guess with that uh uncle the podcast.com live on ochelli.com every Friday night,unclepodcast and all the social medias, the tic tac and all that. Uncle, why don’t you uh bring us on home for theweek? 309.99 over. And watch out for my um tax in theum tax form for this man gonna play with mytic tac. My tic tac man. Yeah, watch out for that. Yeah, watch out for the tic tac. Wedon’t have that on tonight though. But it all right.We’ll see you next time. See you next time, baby.Let’s see this song. I’m waiting on the song that he’s going to showfrom the aesa.Policeto rise.I can whispertheinto the earth. Iam alreadyI am a god of disorder.Goodbye.Raers to the ashes.lives withoutyour return.Wasting for a little bit. Yes. Yes. Whythe ashes?